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		<title>By: Qtpies7</title>
		<link>http://www.totalmomhaircut.com/2006/10/19/grapple-grapple.html#comment-1520</link>
		<dc:creator>Qtpies7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have asked the kids to share, and if that didn't work I would have told them to share or I would hunt down their parents because these toys are for all the kids in the store. If that did not work, you could find a store worker and tell them there is an unsupervised child who is causing problems for other children. Make them hunt down the parent. THAT is humiliating for the parent, hopefully enough to cuase the parent to leave and deal with their child and supervise in the future. You talking to the parent may get defensiveness and righteous indignation instead of a child taught how to behave in public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have asked the kids to share, and if that didn&#8217;t work I would have told them to share or I would hunt down their parents because these toys are for all the kids in the store. If that did not work, you could find a store worker and tell them there is an unsupervised child who is causing problems for other children. Make them hunt down the parent. THAT is humiliating for the parent, hopefully enough to cuase the parent to leave and deal with their child and supervise in the future. You talking to the parent may get defensiveness and righteous indignation instead of a child taught how to behave in public.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.totalmomhaircut.com/2006/10/19/grapple-grapple.html#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with abc momma. There is nothing wrong with being assertive, and situations like these are perfect opportunities to teach Sam about that.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Being a social worker I have worked with a lot of bullies in my day, and I found that sometimes they really just don't know where the boundaries are. I think that it is perfectly acceptable to set up some boundaries, by saying in a calm, but firm voice, "You need to share." By saying this you are not discipling or the other children, you are parenting your own. You are showing him how to be assertive and you are giving him the message that he is important enough to be treated with respect also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with abc momma. There is nothing wrong with being assertive, and situations like these are perfect opportunities to teach Sam about that.   </p>
<p>Being a social worker I have worked with a lot of bullies in my day, and I found that sometimes they really just don&#8217;t know where the boundaries are. I think that it is perfectly acceptable to set up some boundaries, by saying in a calm, but firm voice, &#8220;You need to share.&#8221; By saying this you are not discipling or the other children, you are parenting your own. You are showing him how to be assertive and you are giving him the message that he is important enough to be treated with respect also.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.totalmomhaircut.com/2006/10/19/grapple-grapple.html#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way. When we're out, I monitor the situations and help guide things along. Too often I see other children not getting the same guidance and, while it bothers me, I guess I've come not to expect too much. You can only do what you know best.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don't think you can expect all parents to be as attentive, for hundreds of reasons. I wouldn't reprimand another child, but what I do is let my boy know that not everyone is raised properly and sometimes people can be rude, mean, clueless, careless, etc.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One recent incident that comes to mind is from a recent trip to a local theme park. We were waiting on line, rather impatiently, for a fire-engine ride. There was a clear line, but there's a backdoor entrance (actually, the exit), and by the time my son was ready to ascend the engine, other parents had let their kids go up the back way. I didn't want to be that guy who either says to the kids or the parents of the kids, 'Hey, it's my son's turn.' I think I'm better than that, frankly. So that's what I told my son--that not everyone is considerate and that we would be better than they were. And when he finally got his turn, we told him how proud we were of his patience and bought him a treat on the way out. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Did I handle it right? I'm not sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way. When we&#8217;re out, I monitor the situations and help guide things along. Too often I see other children not getting the same guidance and, while it bothers me, I guess I&#8217;ve come not to expect too much. You can only do what you know best.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you can expect all parents to be as attentive, for hundreds of reasons. I wouldn&#8217;t reprimand another child, but what I do is let my boy know that not everyone is raised properly and sometimes people can be rude, mean, clueless, careless, etc.</p>
<p>One recent incident that comes to mind is from a recent trip to a local theme park. We were waiting on line, rather impatiently, for a fire-engine ride. There was a clear line, but there&#8217;s a backdoor entrance (actually, the exit), and by the time my son was ready to ascend the engine, other parents had let their kids go up the back way. I didn&#8217;t want to be that guy who either says to the kids or the parents of the kids, &#8216;Hey, it&#8217;s my son&#8217;s turn.&#8217; I think I&#8217;m better than that, frankly. So that&#8217;s what I told my son&#8211;that not everyone is considerate and that we would be better than they were. And when he finally got his turn, we told him how proud we were of his patience and bought him a treat on the way out. </p>
<p>Did I handle it right? I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Poopydigs</title>
		<link>http://www.totalmomhaircut.com/2006/10/19/grapple-grapple.html#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>Poopydigs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you did the right thing in attempting to mediate the situation, and then removing Sam from it when things were not getting any better. Parents need to take an active role with their kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you did the right thing in attempting to mediate the situation, and then removing Sam from it when things were not getting any better. Parents need to take an active role with their kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it's all been said.  I am so sorry you had that run-in with dumb, unqualified parents who are teaching their children their methods of not caring about bettering our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#8217;s all been said.  I am so sorry you had that run-in with dumb, unqualified parents who are teaching their children their methods of not caring about bettering our society.</p>
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		<title>By: smartmama</title>
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		<dc:creator>smartmama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh i hear you-i believe in active parenting- it really annoys me when parents totally leave their kids to their own devices</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh i hear you-i believe in active parenting- it really annoys me when parents totally leave their kids to their own devices</p>
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		<title>By: mopsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>mopsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me passive-aggresive, but I probably would have said something like "sorry, Sam, *some* kids simply haven't learned how to share..." and made sure I said it loud enough for the parents to hear. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Not the best way to handle the situation, I freely admit. I can't stand indifferent parents. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You are right when you say you were both bullied. You were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me passive-aggresive, but I probably would have said something like &#8220;sorry, Sam, *some* kids simply haven&#8217;t learned how to share&#8230;&#8221; and made sure I said it loud enough for the parents to hear. </p>
<p>Not the best way to handle the situation, I freely admit. I can&#8217;t stand indifferent parents. </p>
<p>You are right when you say you were both bullied. You were.</p>
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		<title>By: amyjane</title>
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		<dc:creator>amyjane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch! This kind of thing puts the fear of toddlerhood in me!  I consider myself pretty overprotective--I have to mentally coach myself to let my little guy take some risks.  I just hate that as he gets bigger, we will find ourselves in more and more of the situations and it will be quite a while until he can mediate for himself. &lt;BR/&gt;Before Baby, I was a sixth grade teacher for several years. It's interesting how these types of dynamics translate up.  For some interesting reading, you should look for a book called "Queen Bees and Wannabes," or probably more pertinent to this post, "Queen Been Moms and Kingpin Dads."  I learned a lot about parenting dynamics from them, even though they are primarily about older kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch! This kind of thing puts the fear of toddlerhood in me!  I consider myself pretty overprotective&#8211;I have to mentally coach myself to let my little guy take some risks.  I just hate that as he gets bigger, we will find ourselves in more and more of the situations and it will be quite a while until he can mediate for himself. <br />Before Baby, I was a sixth grade teacher for several years. It&#8217;s interesting how these types of dynamics translate up.  For some interesting reading, you should look for a book called &#8220;Queen Bees and Wannabes,&#8221; or probably more pertinent to this post, &#8220;Queen Been Moms and Kingpin Dads.&#8221;  I learned a lot about parenting dynamics from them, even though they are primarily about older kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man. I had an awesome post and came back to see what others had said and see that my post didn't post. (insert swear word here). Well, everything I had said is stated over and over here by different people. Essentially: With a young kid, you DO need to mediate.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It's ok to say things over-loudly to let a parent hear you talking to their kids.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I'd never ever talk to a parent in a rude tone or indignation cuz someday, trust me, that rude little kid could verrrrrry easily be yours and you could verrrrry easily be caught unaware and slightly checked out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man. I had an awesome post and came back to see what others had said and see that my post didn&#8217;t post. (insert swear word here). Well, everything I had said is stated over and over here by different people. Essentially: With a young kid, you DO need to mediate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ok to say things over-loudly to let a parent hear you talking to their kids.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d never ever talk to a parent in a rude tone or indignation cuz someday, trust me, that rude little kid could verrrrrry easily be yours and you could verrrrry easily be caught unaware and slightly checked out!</p>
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		<title>By: Lynanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa..lots of comments already have said it much better than I can.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I can think of several ways to handle this (none of which I probably would have done at the time. I likely would have left also because I'd be too upset to think of a response)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You could use it as a teaching moment for Sam and say to him, "Oh, I see you don't have any cars to play with.  That's not fair.  Maybe you could ask that nice girl/boy to share one with you?"  Then help him as necessary to ask the other child for what he wants.  &lt;BR/&gt; &lt;BR/&gt;Alternatively you can say this loud enough for the parents to overhear. I'm assuming they simply weren't paying any attention. The kids' response to The Look indicate that they know better and were just seeing what they could get away with.  You might need to repeat several variations before the parents get a clue.  "I see that boy grabbed that car from you.  Grabbing is rude.  If you still want to play with it, you can ask him to give it back.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In other situations, I've said to my child "I'm sorry you aren't able to play here because of how those children are behaving.  Let's go find a store employee to remind them that the toy is here for everyone to use."  You'd be amazed how quickly the other children decide they are done playing. ;)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Then there is the direct approach of just talking to the parents.  Say, "My son really wants to play with the train.  I know your children are having fun with all the cars, but could you ask if they let my son have a few too?"&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My last choice would be to confront the children directly.  This might put the parents on the defensive.  Badly behaved children often have badly behaved parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa..lots of comments already have said it much better than I can.  </p>
<p>I can think of several ways to handle this (none of which I probably would have done at the time. I likely would have left also because I&#8217;d be too upset to think of a response)</p>
<p>You could use it as a teaching moment for Sam and say to him, &#8220;Oh, I see you don&#8217;t have any cars to play with.  That&#8217;s not fair.  Maybe you could ask that nice girl/boy to share one with you?&#8221;  Then help him as necessary to ask the other child for what he wants.  </p>
<p>Alternatively you can say this loud enough for the parents to overhear. I&#8217;m assuming they simply weren&#8217;t paying any attention. The kids&#8217; response to The Look indicate that they know better and were just seeing what they could get away with.  You might need to repeat several variations before the parents get a clue.  &#8220;I see that boy grabbed that car from you.  Grabbing is rude.  If you still want to play with it, you can ask him to give it back.</p>
<p>In other situations, I&#8217;ve said to my child &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry you aren&#8217;t able to play here because of how those children are behaving.  Let&#8217;s go find a store employee to remind them that the toy is here for everyone to use.&#8221;  You&#8217;d be amazed how quickly the other children decide they are done playing. <img src='http://www.totalmomhaircut.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Then there is the direct approach of just talking to the parents.  Say, &#8220;My son really wants to play with the train.  I know your children are having fun with all the cars, but could you ask if they let my son have a few too?&#8221;</p>
<p>My last choice would be to confront the children directly.  This might put the parents on the defensive.  Badly behaved children often have badly behaved parents.</p>
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